DC vs. MARVEL: Green Arrow vs Hawkeye
DC vs. Marvel: Green Arrow vs Hawkeye
Background: When it comes to two characters that mirror each other in a lot of ways you need to look no further than Green Arrow and Hawkeye. Both are bow and arrow wielding assassins from the DC and Marvel universes and both are constantly compared. I’m going to break them down a bit further in this column and try to come up with a consensus as to who is the better character.
Hawkeye’s story begins with him as Clint Barton, an abandoned child who was orphaned after his parents died in a car accident. When he got a bit older he ran away with his brother to join the circus where he was trained by Swordsman and Trickshot and was able to fine tune his archery talents. After a dispute between them where he refused to become corrupt he wandered from city to city as “Hawkeye”, performing archery tricks for paying customers. It was when he one day saw Iron Man rescue civilians that he decided to put his talent to good use and become a superhero. He later met Black Widow who was working as a villain for her country and seduced Clint into taking down Iron Man. He regretted this decision and came to his senses, opting to join The Avengers or at least prove to them that he would be a great member of the team. He broke into The Avengers mansion and convinced Jarvis to help him show the team what he could do, and with vouching from Iron Man he became an official member of The Avengers.
Green Arrow’s back story is much different as he comes from a wealthy family. Oliver Queen grew up idolizing Robin Hood and was a natural archer, practicing on animals but always hesitant to finally kill them. It was this hesitation that led to the death of his parents, as they were mauled by lions in a safari accident as Oliver looked on, too frightened to shoot. Once he inherited the family fortune he became a Tony Stark form of billionaire playboy which led to a drunken escapade where he fell off of his yacht and washed ashore on a deserted island. Armed with nothing but a bow he grabbed to keep him afloat he learned to reinvent himself and hone his survival/archery skills, ultimately going through his character transformation that leads him to become the Green Arrow we know today. He later discovered drug smugglers on the island and took them out one by one, foiling their operation and finding his destiny in the process. It was from that day forward that he vowed to fight crime and use his abilities for good rather than evil.
Both origin stories are fantastic but there’s something about the isolation of finding yourself and doing a complete 180 that draws me into Oliver Queen.
Point: Green Arrow
Skills: Green Arrow is a master archer and the finest in his universe, claiming to fire 29 arrows per minute. He’s also a master martial artist with skills in Judo, kickboxing and karate as well as having advanced training with a sword. He’s an incredibly strong individual that often engages in hand to hand combat when he’s in close proximity to his enemies.
Hawkeye is also a master archer and the finest in his universe as well. His incredible reflexes and hand-eye coordination lead him to make some of the most difficult shots the world has ever seen. He has extensive training in acrobatics, hand to hand combat, throwing knives, darts, bolas, and boomerangs. Clint is practically deadly in close quarters thanks to extensive training with none other than Captain America himself. He’s also an underrated combat strategist and leader, as well as an experienced weapon designer and advanced pilot.
Both have similar skill sets and are the best marksman in their universe but Hawkeye has advanced hand to hand combat that gives him the edge over Ollie.
Point: Hawkeye
Affiliations: Hawkeye is a mainstay in The Avengers and one of their most pivotal members. According to the Marvel database he has a long list of Affiliations which include “formerly founding member of Avengers West Coast and first chairman, S.H.I.E.L.D., Carson Carnival of Traveling Wonders, Tiboldt Circus (a.k.a. Circus of Crime)” (Marvel.com).
Green Arrow is a recurring member of the Justice League and has team affiliations to Queen Industries and The Outsiders. He’s married to the ass-kicking Black Canary and has close ties with Hal Jordan and Barry Allen in The Justice League (though Hawkeye has gotten very close to Captain America).
While both have close ties to their respective comic team-ups it’s Hawkeye who just edges out Ollie here due to his abundance of affiliated groups as well as his longstanding relationship with The Avengers.
Point: Hawkeye
Apparel/Weapons: Hawkeye’s trademark purple uniform has stayed the same over time with a
few tweaks and a complete overhaul in the Ultimate universe. That saw a modern take on his uniform and the replacement of his mask with sleek looking glasses. He uses a bow with trick arrows that include explosives, flares, sonic blasts, buzzsaws, grappling hooks, tear gas, smoke bombs, nets and standard issue deadly ones. He oftentimes will use the collapsible bow as a hand to hand weapon as well as throwing darts.
Green Arrow is best known for his green and black “Robin Hood” inspired outfit that he dons while fighting crime. It’s often accompanied by a hood he wears in battles and a sleek looking chest piece. The DC 52 reboot has him alternating between sunglasses and a mask but still using his hood and green colors. He also uses a bow and an incredibly diverse amount of custom made trick arrows to fire at enemies. They include the standard ones, explosives, acid, bleach, nets, stun grenade, smoke, tear gas, the Greek Fire arrow and arguably his most infamous, The Boxing glove arrow. That arrow had a lifesize boxing glove attached to the end of it and was widely used by the Arrow throughout his comics run.
When it comes to personal taste I like Hawkeye’s Ultimate look the best but nobody can deny the bad-ass image of Green Arrow donning the hood and bow. Though both have similar weaponry it’s Green Arrow’s custom made ammunition that are the most creative, so he just edges out Hawkeye in this one.
Point: Green Arrow
Social Relevance: Hawkeye has seen an enormous run through Avengers comics, his standalone comic and recently a pairing with Captain America. He’s one of the main characters in The Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, was seen in the Iron Man animated series and recently saw a burst in popularity with Marvel’s The Avengers. Jeremy Renner brought his stoic personality to the role of Clint Barton and showed off some of his bad-ass techniques on the big screen. Now he has his own line of merchandise including toys, action figures, t-shirts and a NERF bow. It’s yet to be seen if Hawkeye will get his own spinoff but insiders are linking him to the Black Widow prequel and of course the inevitable Avengers sequel. There’s just something about a character wielding a bow with breathtaking precision that resonates giddy excitement inside of fans. Clint is an orphaned runaway that sometimes dabbles in between the lines of good and evil and it’s his quippy ways and resounding attitude that strike a chord with most fans.
Green Arrow is one of DC’s trademark heroes and has had a more successful run in comics than Clint, especially through his solo adventures. His new DC 52 reboot has him appearing in Justice League as well as on his own with brand new imagery and a sleek, original design. He was seen on TV in Justice League Unlimited (albeit briefly) as well as Young Justice and a recurring spot on Batman: The Brave and the Bold. This fall he’s gearing up for his own live-action show on the WB starring Stephen Amell as the titular hero. Oliver Queen also appeared in Smallville for a successful 72 episode run and was played by Justin Hartley.
If you ask the casual fan about each of these heroes they’d most likely know Hawkeye better due to his recent burst in popularity on the big screen; but if you ask comic fans they’d be able to recite each with excruciating detail. Because of Hawkeye’s recent success in The Avengers, and for that sole reason alone, he wins this category at the moment.
Point: Hawkeye
Winner: Hawkeye
Wow. I knew this matchup was going to be close but it was even tighter than I could’ve possibly imagined. A lot of these categories could go either way and at the end of the day it comes down to your perceptions about these heroes and your opinion. Hawkeye wins for me but if you give this matchup to 10 people I’d honestly think you’d get an even 5 and 5 split. Who do you like best?
Great. Awesome review you got there. Personally, I think the winner would be the green hooded guy because he edges the purple guy with his experience. He has a protégé or has protégés (Speedy/Red Arrow, Mia Dearden, Artemis Crock). Justin Hartley as Oliver Queen in Smallville also proved Green Arrow’s social relevance. DC will always be for DC; Marvel for Marvel.
Just some thoughts! Thanks for the undeniably insightful thoughts about the two archers. Kudos!
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I agree that many people have strict loyalties for either DC or Marvel but I wanted to point out that both Shifty and I try to remain as unbiased as possible for this column and have both given titles to Marvel and DCers
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Thanks for the kind words man, I appreciate it! I totally agree with you about Green Arrow and his social relevance/impact, that section comes down to a lot of your own perceptions of the character so it could really go either way. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
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Thanks, Shifty. Don’t get me wrong, but that’s an in-depth review right there and it’s impressive! Write more..
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Great article! I find it very difficult to choose between them myself.
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Relevance: Hawkeye might have is recent big success because of his apperaence on the big screen right now, but GA will allways be of more relevance because of the comics in the 70s together with Green Lantern. The Adams and O’Neil stories around corruption, racism and pollution during their roadtrip through America and the addiction to heroin of speedy are important steps in comic history and Hawkeye cannot compete with that.
(sorry for my bad english, German here)
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It wasn’t even until the story-arc with Arrow tag-teaming with Lantern, that he actually became big. Hawkeye, was an instant hit with comics and the overall hype from both histories isn’t actually in Oliver Queen’s favour. Hawkeye was on a winning streak from the start, and while Olly was a decent way ahead in longevity, Clint didn’t need to make up much before he was ahead of the game. Plus what he’s done with the Avengers only adds up to his tally.
Hawkeye’s a member of the Avengers many would want to see in his own flick, or TV show. And contrary to popular belief he actually did a-lot in the movie to prove why, mind controlled or not (it doesn’t change your skill-set.)
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green arrow trains with batman and black canary in the jla hawkeye is just a soldier. Green arrow has more training and technology including a nuclear warhead. Your point is invalid
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I appreciate the input man but I’m only one person’s opinion.. I’m sure there are many on either side of the fence with these characters.
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Great review man, like you said it could go either way due to opinion! Both are masters in archery and in martial arts so it’s hard to say which is better in that category, which is why you have to look past that..like at their personality’s and backgrounds. Green Arrow personally is my favorite because of his background and personality. Barton’s personality is kinda blahhh but Oliver Queen’s personality both in the comics and in the television series Smallville(which I was a huge fan of) was witty and funny. Also Oliver Queen story was much more “touching” if you will. But like you said it’s just a matter of opinion so good review and keep writing!!
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Green arrow personally seems like more of a true classic than smallville and was truly great in smallville as the personality had more essence than hawkeye when he was in the avengers.
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Both Barton and Queen are comparable- Queen might edge Barton due to a tad more experience, but Barton is the BETTER fighter! Both characters are anti heroes, who push the limits of their own human abilities ( they are plain mortals unlike their counterparts, trained to the levels of olympic athletes) I like the Green Arrow as his character has more strength than many other one dimensional DC characters, but Barton is just more intense…
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I’m a die-hard hawkeye fan. Always have been. But you did bring up some valid points, and, in my opinion, it may be a tie between the two… wow, that sounds weird coming from me….
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GREEEN ARROW all the way
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My mind can’t wrap my head around the idea of a bow-wielding “superhero” in a world with a Superman or Hulk or Thor in it.
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I’m normally a Marvel fan, but I gotta give this one to GA, too be it seems like DC have.. fewer awesome character while Marvel got loads, but when counting the ones that really stand out its a draw in my opinion.
GA > Hawk
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I’m not a cartoon reader, and i didn’t have the strength to read through the article. But i have seen both justice league unlimited and the avengers : earths mightiest heroes. And hawkeye is the best by my opinion.
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Seriously!? You base the winnner off of one movie with a few appearnces!? Whatever, i gues 5 years of up close and personal in smallville means nothing, better actor too. Do your homework better next time you fool.
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‘Nothing’ is a good word to describe Smallville.
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Do my homework? How many people watched Smallville and how many people watched The Avengers? Do you know what social relevance means? Here, let me define it for you: Social relevance is how said item pertains to society. If you poll 10 random people in 10 random places the chances of them knowing who Hawkeye is over Green Arrow is pretty high, specifically with the success of The Avengers and the lack of popularization with the Green Arrow character in large-scale media. Look, I get it, you’re a massive Smallville fanboy (which was pretty evident with your ridiculous statement of Justin Hartley being a better actor than Jeremy Renner) but you have to try and take an unbiased look at both sides.
But, you know, thanks for the constructive criticism. Maybe you could do your homework before you comment on an article.
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O boy, this is such a tuffy. Hawkeye is sooo awesomem in the new avengers movie, he even took the time to join the army for a short stint and disarm bombs. He is a patriot, as far as I know the Green Bow and Arrow never served his country overseas. Hawkeye wins.
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yea green arrow has alot of experience and style.so done person is to hawkeye pick one BOTH of them one person is too mainstream
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If I were a professional writer assigned to do a Hawkeye/ Green Arrow crossover, I’d have to leave it in a draw. You can compare the two all day and night long, but at the end of the day, the two would be too evenly matched. I’m unbiased in a somewhat awkward way that I grew up reading both characters, and loving them equally. I’ve never been a Marvel guy, I’ve never been a DC guy. I’m a fan of both companies. I’m a fan of stories, regardless of publisher. I grew up wanting to be like them, so I took up archery.
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Personally I can’t stand it when writers get the opportunity to pit two great characters against each other only for it to wind up a draw. Everyone seems so concerned about upsetting fans.
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I’m a little biased in my preference of Hawkeye, he’s been one of my favorite super heroes since I was little with watching the older avengers cartoon, but in all honestly, I believe they’d both win depending on their situations. For Green Arrow, island and forrest terrains may give him an upper edge due to his five year isolation, where for Hawkeye, the more urban environment is the one he knows best. Basically it comes down to the location, ammunition and mental states of each at the time they go head to head.
(and with the new Arrow show Green Arrow might become more popular and known with the general public too)
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Great points but remember, this column isn’t about who would win in a fight. It’s about which character is better overall (with skills being just one category).
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I don’t really agree with u.I think that Green Arrow wins.
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I prefer green arrow. Not just for skills or who would win in a fight. But for his attitude and just who he is.
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great article! I looked this up because I wanted to get a consensus of what other people were thinking and their reasoning. One thing that has been throwing me off in my personal decision is how often the characters are re-imagined at least personality wise. (not going to dive into the comics) But for Barton on the Avengers movie he seemed very serious (maybe just to much mind controlling) and in the avengers earths mightiest heroes he was witty and kind of a wise ass. While in smallville GA was witty and a wise ass and in new GA show Arrow he is very serious…. Whatever, doesn’t really matter, as long as someone is kicking ass without powers just skills i’m pulling for them.
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Great article!!! Good points made…I was always a Hawkeye fan when I first started reading comics (way too many years ago to point out), but I think I’ve landed on the Green Arrow side of the fence. I think he’s more charismatic in his own way. I loved the Hawkeye portrayal in the Avengers movie … and I’m really liking the new Arrow series as well. But for some reason i’m more drawn to the Green Arrow side of the fence.
Fantastic article, well written and persuasive. If only these two characters really existed!
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This is fucking BS Green arrow is THE best archer in any fucking universe and a high ranked martial artist and he would whoop the sorry ass rip off loser known as hawkeye. Furthermore green arrow has a fucking hot wife. Batman would win over captain America because if batmans genius mind and perfected fighting skills. He also didn’t use a fucking super serum.
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You are the very definition of a raging fanboy
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Green arrow because he has a warhead arrow he can shoot 29 arrows a minute he was trained by the person who trained slade
he has the phantom zone arrow and he is a master swords man he shot a bow with 1 hand he will kill people if he has to and most people dont see that he has shot someone before when lian *red arrows kid* died so i belive that green arrow would win because of his overall more versatile arsenal and his training but that said in a real fight social relevance doesnt matter
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